Is Trump shielded from criminal charges as an ex-president? A nation awaits word from Supreme Court

Nobody is above the law.

Except Trump!

Nobody is above the law.

Except Trump!

Don't see any prison stints being done by anyone on your side of the aisle for crimes that regular joes would be doing hard time for.

DaDude

Don't see any prison stints being done by anyone on your side of the aisle for crimes that regular joes would be doing hard time for.

What crimes? Do tell.

Trump should pray that he’s not above the law. By his own attorney’s logic, he could be assassinated by Biden and nothing could be done about it unless Biden was first impeached and convicted.

This is beyond stupid. In other words, what passes for poorly constructed MAGA “logic”.

It would place ANY president effectively beyond the law as long as he/she had support of his/her party.

Trump isn’t immune. We don’t have Kings in America. But the delay is the strategy.

This case was fairly straightforward. It could have been tried and adjudicated by now.

SCOTUS declined to reach down and take the case when requested.

THEN, it decided to take up the case in spite of a unanimous decision at the appellate court level of bulletproof logic.

THEN, it decided to take a leisurely walk down argument lane.

THEN it sits on the case when there’s no substantial evidence to support the application.

GQP justices don’t want the felon in Chief to face a verdict prior to the election and a few of them have put their fingers on the scale

Nobody is above the law.

Except Trump!

Don't see any prison stints being done by anyone on your side of the aisle for crimes that regular joes would be doing hard time for.

Thats what happens when one doesn’t commit crimes. When there’s no evidence or even charges.

Hmmm. Maybe “your side” should stop committing crimes?

Just a thought.

The court’s handling of the immunity issue already has provoked criticism, both that the justices took up the issue at all — particularly given a unanimous federal appeals court ruling that rejected Trump's claim — and more recently that they haven’t yet decided it.

The corrupt Supreme Court justices like Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito are there to shield Trump from the consequences of his actions.

Stinks to high heaven, but with the SCOTUS there is no accountability.

In any case, they can still convict Trump in 2025...

The court also will decide whether former Trump adviser Steve Bannon can stay out of prison while he appeals his contempt of Congress conviction for defying a subpoena from the House committee that investigated the Capitol attack.

Pardoned by Trump, with a Trump Supreme Court tools of billionaires hearing his case.

Collaborating with Chinese billionaire scams.

Bann8n is the apotheosis of the American two-tier injustice system.

Even more so than his boss.

He is Trump's brain after all.

Trump case is not of prima facie importance relevance.

The question is should past present future presidents be shielded from criminal charges.

Yes, without any doubt, or in such high office, any future essential vital global decision making, could be subject to the threat of criminal charges.

any future essential vital global decision making, could be subject to the threat of criminal charges.

Actions that are part of official presidential responsibilities are not subject to criminal charges.

Orchestrating a plot to overturn election results are not part of a president's duties. (And hey, Clarence Thomas, your wife was part of that plot. Recuse yourself already.)

Do you seriously believe the despot dictatorships of this world, the governments of china, russia, north korea, iran wont be celebrating at such a prospect?

Do you seriously believe, think these tyrants will be held accountant in the same manner?

Do you seriously believe the despot dictatorships of this world, the governments of china, russia, north korea, iran wont be celebrating at such a prospect?

Do they live in America? No.

Do you seriously believe, think these tyrants will be held accountant in the same manner?

Does this false equivalence even matter? No.

Unless he is... then Trump better hide!

Looking at Biden’s numbers, I doubt it.

Condolences.

Biden indeed had his chances

No, of course he doesn't. You let this happen and you'll only get criminals as presidents seeking immunity after taking turns to runt he country into the ground. Sorry, below the ground.

Genius. lol.

That’s what $68.000 in my bank account in half a week thanks to a random unsolicited mocker on this website says. 

irs not even my actual job of course. just a hobby,

Because it’s not an actual job, lol. It’s a scam.

And you’re talking up a stock you pump and dump and/or short-sell. Thats the only way your making money on this scam.

DaDudeToday  07:20 am JST

Nobody is above the law.

Except Trump!

Don't see any prison stints being done by anyone on your side of the aisle for crimes that regular joes would be doing hard time for.

Come up with specific charges and evidence and that’ll be something. Until then, you’ve got bunk.

John

You have answered your own question .

It will matter when the government of china blockades Taiwan,

It could and has stated so.

Then US President with his hand tied, mumbles we have to, I am not saw, in the back of his might after the next election he could be locked up!!!!

South Korea is known to politically Jail its leaders.

Then china chokes off global essential trading routes.

When a future President has to take a vital decision without fear or favour, can you seriously suggest this wont cloud his judgement.

Trump is headed to jail - no matter how much our MAGA friends here say "That won't happen" to cope with the inevitable...

Thomas is bought and paid for by the far-right Top 1% and Alito is led around by the nose by his MAGA-nutty wife...

Hopefully the other judges can act like real jurists and issue a verdict that saves our democracy from the clutches of MAGA fascism...

It will matter when the government of china blockades Taiwan, 

No, it won’t. This is a bad-faith, or at best an argument ignorant of the facts.

Then US President with his hand tied, mumbles we have to, I am not saw, in the back of his might after the next election he could be locked up!!!!

Not if he/she doesn’t commit crimes.

South Korea is known to politically Jail its leaders. 

Because they commit crimes this isn’t a sign of weakness it’s a sign of a fully-fledged mature democracy with the Rule of Law that applies to all.

In America (unlike Russia, China, etc.) no one is above the law. And we don’t have Kings anymore. Condolences.

The court’s handling of the immunity issue already has provoked criticism, both that the justices took up the issue at all — particularly given a unanimous federal appeals court ruling that rejected Trump's claim — and more recently that they haven’t yet decided it.

Even if the court limits Trump’s immunity, or rejects his claims altogether, allowing his trial on election interference to go forward in Washington means “it is unlikely a verdict will be delivered before the election,” University of Michigan law professor Leah Litman wrote in The New York Times.

While the court has moved more quickly than usual in taking up the immunity case, it has acted far more speedily in other epic cases involving presidential power,

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The whole thing is politically motivated anyway—they (SCOTUS) know what they’re doing.

Is Trump shielded from criminal charges as an ex-president?

It’s not every day that you’re the President of the United States of America (and other former presidents did worse and they’re “clean”—is that fair?), so yes. “Let the man go”. Heheh.

itsonlyrocknroll

Trump case is not of prima facie importance relevance.

The question is should past present future presidents be shielded from criminal charges.

Yes, without any doubt, or in such high office, any future essential vital global decision making, could be subject to the threat of criminal charges.

So a president could murder someone and couldn't be charged?

If he isn’t then the actual criminals like the Clintons, Bush, Obama will be tried for war crimes, don’t forget Obama ordered the murder an actual U.S Citizen and his son! Americans are afforded the right to a fair trial and not be killed by a drone strike!

Benghazi, The Iraq invasion, Afghanistan withdrawal, Overthrowing Libya, trying to over throw Syria and all the money laundering that that have all been conducting through Ukraine.

Joe Biden quid pro quo with the Ukraine government to have a lawyer removed who was investigating he and his sons corruptio

gees I don’t know maybe a video of him bragging about it?

gees I don’t know maybe a video of him bragging about it?

Nothing of the sort exists as you describe it. Otherwise Commer and his merry band of morons would have used it to push a vote.

What happened to that investigation?

Oh, it closed without even taking a vote in committee.

2020hindsights,

That is a nonsensical question, and only a matter for congress, in such circumstances, has the powers to impeach.

And so pass to the courts judiciary.

All US Presidents must be free to take decisions that could end in fatalities, both domestic and abroad.

gees I don’t know maybe a video of him bragging about it?

Yeah, that didn't happen. This is complete and total nonsense. What you are talking about is a small clip of a nearly two hour minute talkwhere he threatened to withold funding for Ukraine if they didn't fire the prosecutor who WASN'T investigating corruption. The whole reason this happened is because he WASN'T doing enough to fight corruption, not because he was doing investigating Burisma.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGJIXFqOqVQ

52:11 for anyone watching.

This boomerangs either way on the ledt.

If Trump gets any immunity at all, the left cries out in rage! it means Biden can assassinate people now and just cancel the election! (ummm no)

Or Trump gets no immunity, wins the election anyway and prosecutes any/all Democrat ex-Presidents he wants.

win/win.

We all know Trump is guilty of all charges in all cases.

itsonlyrocknroll

2020hindsights,

So a president could murder someone and couldn't be charged?

That is a nonsensical question,

No, it's not, it's a direct consequence of not being able to convict a president. The judge in the appellate court actually ask this question.

and only a matter for congress, in such circumstances, has the powers to impeach.

And so pass to the courts judiciary.

No, they don't. US law is very clear, that while someone is in office they can be impeached, but they can also be charged with crimes once they leave office.

McConnell even said that instead of the Senate impeaching Trump for Jan 6., that it should go to the courts where he can be tried for his extensive crimes.

All US Presidents must be free to take decisions that could end in fatalities, both domestic and abroad.

They can make any decisions they like. But they can't commit crimes.

BlacklabelToday  09:35 am JST

This boomerangs either way on the ledt.

Um no. And not against the “Left” either.

No, he isn’t fully immune and he had better pray to whatever “god” he worships that he’s not because that’s exactly what could happen minus canceling the election.

Partial immunity doesn’t help him because none of trying to overthrow the government is an official acts and can be proven as such.

More likely SCOTUS will punt it back down to the trial court to determine what constitutes an official act.

In which case we can have a trial in every aspect but a verdict. Evidence presented, witnesses called, decisions made.

And the voters will get to see what an insurrectionist scumbag trump is before the election and there will be nothing the cult can do to stop it.

Um no. And not against the “Left” either. 

Hmmm

No, he isn’t fully immune and he had better pray to whatever “god” he worships that he’s not because that’s exactly what could happen minus canceling the election.

As do the Democrats

Partial immunity doesn’t help him because none of trying to overthrow the government is an official acts and can be proven as such. 

But he didn’t overthrow the government and all of our institutions remained intact, so…

More likely SCOTUS will punt it back down to the trial court to determine what constitutes an official act.

Or give him some form of immunity otherwise a sitting President will never be able to effectively do their job not know if they will be subject to political prosecution from their former rivals because that means, the Republicans can later go after Biden for the Documents he had while he was VP and Senator or his infamous disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, they can go after Obama for his involvement with the fast and furious gun running scandal with Mexico or they can go after Clinton for bombing Kosovo without congressional approval. So once again, the so-called smart Democrats, the same smart ones that gave us 3 conservative Supreme Court Justices are now making it easy for Republicans to equally go after their Democrat opponents.

In which case we can have a trial in every aspect but a verdict. Evidence presented, witnesses called, decisions made. 

We shall see

And the voters will get to see what an insurrectionist scumbag trump

Riot at best.

is before the election and there will be nothing the cult can do to stop it.

Nor the left stopping Trump. Careful what you wish for.

The Supreme Court has never been fair and impartial and since it leans way right, you can almost guess the outcome. Justices is the wrong term for them. Puppets is more like it.

The Supreme Court has never been fair and impartial and since it leans way right, you can almost guess the outcome.

Well, they go by the Constitution, they’re not activist justices, they know the differences between a man and a woman, they understand the right to self-defense and the 2nd amendment. I agree, a President not above the law, but also, a President needs to be able to do their job effectively while in office otherwise, no President will ever be able to govern effectively, this is something the left doesn’t get because they’re so emotionally detached from reality and seared with deep-rooted hatred for this guy, they are will to destroy the entire constitution in order to stop this guy and that will backfire and have major ramifications for the Democrats, these people won’t be in power forever, for some reason they think they have the absolute right to govern and be in that WH only. Just sheer mad these libs.

Justices is the wrong term for them. Puppets is more like it.

I disagree.

I’m just not sure who the left expects to suddenly change their vote from Trump to Biden. Not gonna happen.

I’m just not sure who the left expects to suddenly change their vote from Trump to Biden. Not gonna happen.

People who think being an adjudicated rapist and fraud is disqualifying?

People who think being a convicted felon is disqualifying? (31% of GQP voters according to one poll. It won’t be that many but it will be a statistically significant percentage.)

People who think trying to overthrow the government is “bad”?

People who think intentionally stealing government documents including nuclear secrets and obstructing their return is “not good”?

In fact, Biden doesn’t even need voters to “switch” since he beat Trump by 7 million votes last time.

But there will be vote switching from the from in Chief and adjudicated rapist to Biden.

In which case we can have a trial in every aspect but a verdict. Evidence presented, witnesses called, decisions made. 

We shall see

Yes, we shall. And in spite of all the felon in chief’s efforts no less.

He did this, he said that.

10, 20, 30 years ago. Yesterday. Last week. Tomorrow. Every Democrat projection of what they said or did.

1 indictment, 100 indictments by a corrupt DOJ.

34 convictions, 2000 convictions overseen by partisan DAs and judges.

jail or no jail.

doesnt matter. Still voting Trump,.

Joe better hope his 81 million voteS under the “special COVID restriction voting rules” still exist as eligible votERS under standard voting rules.

that Black and legal immigrant vote not looking so solid anymore as well.

BlacklabelToday  12:44 pm JST

He did this, he said that.

10, 20, 30 years ago. Yesterday. Last week. Tomorrow. Every Democrat projection of what they said or did. 

1 indictment, 100 indictments by a corrupt DOJ. 

34 convictions, 2000 convictions overseen by partisan DAs and judges.

jail or no jail. 

doesnt matter. Still voting Trump,.

Spoken like a true cultist.

Fortunately, most Americans aren’t in your “club”.

Sure about that?

trump still leads in the polls and Biden is bleeding support from Blscks, Hispanics and far left.

they may but vote for Trump but they aren’t voting Biden either.

Biden who “won” not by 7 million but by about 40,009 votes total in a few swing states. All of which stopped counting votes for a while all at the same time and took multiple days to finish.

How odd. That won’t happen again.

People who think being an adjudicated rapist and fraud is disqualifying?

No

People who think being a convicted felon is disqualifying? (31% of GQP voters according to one poll. It won’t be that many but it will be a statistically significant percentage.)

Given the fact that Trump is getting more of the minority vote since Biden and the Dems screwed their largest voting block, he can easily make up for those angry suburban rich single white women that are on the fence about him.

People who think trying to overthrow the government is “bad”?

They also think that destroying small businesses, rioting, looting and crime as well as border security or lack of is another reason to vote for the convicted felon

People who think intentionally stealing government documents including nuclear secrets and obstructing their return is “not good”?

That goes both ways, not a blue or red issue.

In fact, Biden doesn’t even need voters to “switch” since he beat Trump by 7 million votes last time. 

That was last time, Trump got 8% of the black vote, now he’s poised to get around 20% and that’s devastating for Democrats, are razors expensive?

But there will be vote switching from the from in Chief and adjudicated rapist to Biden.

So far judging by almost every single poll, doesn’t look like it.

Yes, we shall. And in spite of all the felon in chief’s efforts no less.

Again we shall see. Lol

Fortunately, most Americans aren’t in your “club”.

Nor are they in this administration

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden